13:00:49 From Al B-Vegas to Everyone : so exciting 13:01:26 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Primetime Library https://primetimeisnow.com/library Primetime Meetings https://primetimeisnow.com/meetings Facebook Group, "Primetime is Now" https://www.facebook.com/groups/150420738368480/ 13:02:03 From Diane C to Everyone : Yay!!! 13:02:07 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : 7th Tradition Venmo: @craig-mirijanian Paypal astridhowe@gmail.com 13:02:20 From Mark P to Everyone : great topic, thanks! 13:02:22 From Donna M-Louisiana to Everyone : Hi everyone. Donna from Louisiana 13:11:06 From J.P. G to Everyone : May I ask if John Barleycorn, Memoirs of an alcoholic by Jack London is not considered under the early books? https://primetimeisnow.com/library https://primetimeisnow.com for a link 13:26:30 From Craig M to Everyone : 7th tradition Venmo @Craig-Mirijanian PayPal astridhowe@gmail.com 13:26:49 From Craig M to Everyone : Primetimeisnow.com 13:26:54 From Craig M to Everyone : FB Primetime is now 13:27:09 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Primetime Library https://primetimeisnow.com/library Primetime Meetings https://primetimeisnow.com/meetings Facebook Group, "Primetime is Now" https://www.facebook.com/groups/150420738368480/ 13:28:35 From Cristina J. to Everyone : Thank you! I have a new love for history! 13:30:57 From Julia, central valley California to Everyone : thank you ❤️ 13:32:15 From Annette C to Everyone : Thank you for this wonderful presentation!! 13:35:16 From Craig M to Everyone : Q&A to follow after presentation 13:35:59 From Ross's iPad to Everyone : from what Henry Kissinger said Nixon could have used 13:36:26 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : Lots of opinions here. 13:36:58 From George L A44-NNJ to Everyone : The BB also the most stolen book in many US libraries 13:37:43 From Cristina J. to Everyone : various religious experiences is on google play. part of it is free. the other part for a small nominal fee. 13:38:01 From Isae W | Marin to Everyone : thank you for this wonderful 13:38:25 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : Varieties is available free on PDF. $5 on Amazon 13:38:40 From Lynn B/SF, CA to Everyone : so interesting—thank you! 13:38:52 From Mark P to Everyone : are all the books mentioned still in print? still available? 13:38:57 From Greg M to Everyone : thank you for making this available. it seemed as though it is being recorded, will it be available on the Primetime website. 13:39:08 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Yes uit will 13:39:27 From Greg M to Everyone : thanks 13:39:39 From Isae W | Marin to Everyone : Thank you so much for this wonderful presentation! I belong to an AA history group and I learned about new influences here today thanks to your service! Isae 13:39:39 From Maria C, NJ 2/8/2021 to Everyone : very interesting! thank you! 13:39:58 From Rosann, Ballina Group, Mayo, Ireland to Everyone : How can we get the PDF of the slides, please and thank you 13:40:04 From Katherine C to Everyone : I have been checking on Amazon and Mostar for sale not checked all yet 13:40:16 From Dano Alkie to Everyone : Are E-books part of the 40 million sold 13:40:18 From Katherine C to Everyone : also they r quite cheap 13:40:39 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : The PDF will be available along with the audio on the primetime website https://primetimeisnow.com 13:40:59 From Rosann, Ballina Group, Mayo, Ireland to Everyone : Thank you Howard 13:42:51 From Chris B to Everyone : Awesome presentation very informative and deepened my understanding & commitment to the program of AA 13:42:57 From Gene L SoCal 86 to Everyone : in 1960 the 4th printing of the 2nd edition the quotation contempt prior to investigation was added. It was always a part of of the Spiritual Exp. 13:43:00 From J.P. G to Everyone : My questions for the Q&A section when the presentation is over: 1) Strictly from a Christian point of view, is it possible that Bill & Bob, The Oxford Groups considered and analyszed the teachings of Saint Augustine "If I exist, I have a conscience of my own existance is because God exist". Could there be a relationship to step 2 " came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity? 2) Is the Power Point Presentation available to us? 13:43:21 From Jack A to Everyone : There were also variations in the cover colors in different 1st edition printings … these were due to availability of materials. 13:45:22 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : J.P: The PDF will be available on https://primetimeisnow.com along with the audio 13:45:44 From J.P. to Everyone : Thank you 13:47:58 From Jill S, New Jersey to Everyone : hi California...my husband and I have 5 bikes 13:48:05 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : Lois used to do most of the driving, Bill was usually in the sidecar 13:48:32 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : Harley Davidson all the way 13:49:43 From Ebnonymous to Everyone : 1(707)372-1347 TEXT ONLY...HELP 13:49:58 From Maia to Everyone : I remember reading that pamphlet in the 1980’s 13:50:18 From Jack A to Everyone : https://www.amazon.com/Diary-motorcycle-hobos-Lois-Wilson/dp/B007EUL5T4 13:50:38 From Danielle M to Everyone : This is the Diary of 2 Motorcycle Hobos: https://westbalto.a-1associates.com/LINKS/Lois%20diary.htm 13:50:41 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : TO MED SOC--May still be in warehouse to order--but no more printing 13:52:12 From Jack A to Everyone : The bike is a Harley-Davidson and pin-pointed it to be a F or J-Model between the years 1919 and 1921. 13:52:17 From J.P. G to Everyone : Recently in a virtual meeting in Boston, the chairperson of that group mentioned that the NY GSO was considering writing a new version of the big book, aiming to be more easy and friendly reading, is there any truth to this, is this crap, something as touchy as this should not be approved by the conference? 13:52:36 From Bill W to Everyone : Diary Of Two Motorcycle Hobos is the name. It used to be posted on Silkworth.net. The Stepping Stone Foundation owns that and is enforcing the copyright. The woman who told me she represents Stepping Stones, invited me to ask everyone interested to write them and request that they publish it in the original form. It is NOT currently being published. The copies available on Amazon are so expensive because they are the last of the printed softcovers. 13:53:28 From Debbie F Scotland to Everyone : When you google you will find a site called wesbalto..a-1associates.com it has the Diary of Two Motocycle Hobos on it 13:53:29 From Debbie L. Y.@.H Group to Everyone : the PAPERBACK is 169.99 on Amazon. Wow!! 13:55:22 From Christine - Tenerife to Everyone : Who was the theorist behind the theory that the human self was made up with 3 instincts - Social, Security, and Relationship.? 13:55:23 From Bill W to Everyone : Just checked. That A-1 Associates link still works. Grab it if you're interested: Diary Of Two Motorcycle Hobos It is a great read! 13:55:51 From Donald H. to Everyone : It was an "illegal" book and stepping stones sued to stop publication because no one had asked permission to publish Lois' diary at that time 13:56:54 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : DR Harry Tiebout was another influence on Bill W. 13:56:54 From George M. Concord, NH to Everyone : Bill’s library in his Vermont house was loaded with all kinds of books. He was a big reader for sure. 13:57:23 From Astrid H to Everyone : i have to work right now . would someone please ask for he question about LSD and Bill 13:57:30 From Jolynn K, NJ to Everyone : It reminds of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs; also, perhaps, Jung 13:57:30 From Dave NYC, USA -- (917) 202-7507 to Everyone : Tell us how much Tom Powers contributed to the 12&12 AND which parts? 13:58:34 From Jolynn K, NJ to Everyone : Maslow wrote “A theory of Human Motivation” in 1943. 13:59:39 From Mark E to Everyone : First 179 pages in the beginning before the Roman Numerals 13:59:50 From Debbie L. Y.@.H Group to Everyone : lots of great info here. just fyi..if you go to the three dots … at the bottom to rite of file..you can copy just the chat. 14:00:05 From Carla 415-410-3372 to Everyone : Where will the recording of this presentation be accessed? 14:00:24 From NIL UNTIL to Everyone : The PDF will be available along with the audio on the primetime website https://primetimeisnow.com 14:00:34 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Carla, it will be up by tomorrow AM 14:00:38 From Christine - Tenerife to Everyone : Yes Jolynn, you are right. It seems to have picked up a wee bit from various theories - Maslow, Jung, Erikson etc, but for me I think it simply and beautifully describes the human BEing :-) 14:01:21 From Lynn Nor Cal to Everyone : Bill W. & Dr. Abram Hoffer's relationship from Medical conventions & vitamin therapy for depression Bill W. Vitamin B Therapy papers on the website: www.doctoryourself.com any more information 14:02:34 From Susan C (NY) to Everyone : Diary of Two Motorcycle Hobos - from what I understand yellow cover was printed in Canada and was the source of the lawsuit. Green cover is original printing 14:02:43 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : Get a hold of "Bishop's List" a list of books which influenced the Oxford Groups and by evolution AA a list of 60 books 14:03:49 From George M. Concord, NH to Everyone : I am curious if anyone has the recent book called “The Writing of the Big Book”. I bought it. It is exhaustive and a little difficult to read - small print and a lot of footnotes, etc. 14:04:13 From Nancy C-S to Everyone : when was the triangle and circle removed from the BB cover page and why? 14:04:14 From Mark E to Everyone : Loved that book 14:04:52 From Donald H. to Everyone : Lot of personal opinion in that book 14:05:01 From Katie L to Everyone : I've had "Writing the Big book" reccomended, its on audible as well 14:05:12 From Anita O to Everyone : thank you so much 14:05:39 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : Bill Schaberg's "The Writing Of The Big Book The Creation of A.A." best AA history book since not God. 15 years of research in the archives totally footnotes and index of source materials 14:06:42 From Gene L SoCal 86 to Everyone : at the time the big book was written he hd never heard of the washitonians 14:08:30 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : see googgle---letter of C Jung to W James; Jung spent 2 days with James 14:08:54 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : "SOUL OF SPONSORSHIP" was Ernie Kurtz 14:11:44 From Greg M to Everyone : JOHN B you are a CHANNEL!! Thank You! 14:12:37 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : silkworth.net has some really obscure writings and history plus some PDF's 14:13:03 From Bill W to Everyone : Respectfully Robert Fitzgerald gets credit for soul of sponsorship https://www.amazon.com/Soul-Sponsorship-Friendship-Dowling-Letters/dp/1568380844/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=soul+of+sponsorship&qid=1615144200&sr=8-1 14:13:12 From Liz A. (Ann Arbor, MI) to Everyone : https://www.dropbox.com/s/f51e9tdq3w7epcx/Diary%20of%202%20Motorcycle%20Hobos.pdf?dl=0 14:14:52 From Pete & Rita to Everyone : Micmac Indian story starts on page 494 of 4th edition? 14:15:25 From Dave l NJ Toms river GT to Everyone : god bless great presitation 14:16:07 From Gee to Everyone : Oh yes, sorry it must be another story from the 3rd edition 14:17:13 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : NOT everything on the internet is true? that\s a quote from Abe Lincoln 14:17:47 From Gee to Everyone : Who came up with Step 4? Dr Jung? 14:18:29 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : 4t step? Ancient principle. 14:18:47 From Gee to Everyone : Not the principle the columns 14:19:10 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : not Jung's style. Jung was a mystic 14:19:15 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Step 3 of the 6 step Oxford Group program was “Confession" 14:19:18 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : John and his crew are doing an excellent job. I've been a fellow in the AA History Lovers group for over 20 years, in contact with Glen C. and Ernie K. before their passing on. If you want to hear talks on par with this check out recoveryspeakers.com Mike F. has been putting on workshops similar to this for some time now. All the recordings (no video) available on www.recoveryspeakers.com Mike F. is out of Prescott AZ and the meeting is 6pm every Friday Zoom code: 6 PM PST (Pacific Time) AA History Meeting ID: 310 333 9445 no password host admits from "waiting room" Bill S. "Writing The Big Book", Jay S., and other AA History primary source researchers are among the many presenters. If you liked this talk I highly recommend this weekly history lecture series. 14:20:00 From Donald H. to Everyone : If you read I was a pagan you will find a section on writing things in columns concerning personal "defects"l 14:20:25 From Gee to Everyone : Did the Oxford Group use columns? as part of their step 3 14:20:32 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : I have most of the books mentioned on my shelvers. 14:20:37 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : shelves 14:20:58 From Steve R GV Ariz to Everyone : Thank you John and Frank et all. My second time watching this. John your knowledge needs to be preserved. 14:22:11 From Karla S. Miami to Everyone : THANK YOU!!!!!!!! 14:22:19 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : Ken one of the presenters on those AA history Friday workshop lectures I mentioned. interesting talk. Also check out the one on "King Charles" the story of Charles Towne and his hospital 14:22:20 From Jack A to Everyone : It was not expressly bequeathed in the will. AAWS realized they didn't have a case and under pressure from the Conference, dropped the suit. 14:22:27 From Slade H. (Williston A. A. / North Dakota) to Everyone : Jim Irsay, owner of the Indianapolis Colts, now owns the original working manuscript of Alcoholics Anonymous. 14:22:54 From Linda Lou B to Everyone : The Colts owner bought it in 2.4 million in 2018 14:23:17 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : Colts owner == article in the New Yorkjer 14:23:20 From Donald H. to Everyone : It was offered to AA to print not to own 14:23:43 From Bill W to Everyone : Well, AA could never have won the lawsuit. They admitted they gave it away. "asleep at the switch" or not, AA let it go with no strings attached. These were the trusted servants at GSO that gave it away. AA dropped the lawsuit, and then got court-ordered to pay attorney fees and costs for the estate....We "should" talk about the way "we" handled that to avoid other nonsense in the future. 14:24:24 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : I thought we have resigned from the debate society 14:24:25 From Linda Lou B to Everyone : Jim Isray 14:25:38 From Jack A to Everyone : The decision to remove it has its roots in recent events: actions of the 1993 General Service Conference, and subsequent actions by the Board of Trustees and the directors of AA World Services. 14:26:09 From Bill W to Everyone : Here's an article crediting the source as the AA Grapevine that gives this same history of the Circle&Triangle: https://www.aacle.org/whatever-happened-to-the-circle-and-triangle/ 14:26:14 From Dave NYC, USA -- (917) 202-7507 to Everyone : Medallions came from Sister Ignatia long before the 70s 14:27:36 From Tina B. to Everyone : in the pink service manual...its on page s80 14:27:48 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : Listen to Bill Wilson's talk at 1955 St Louis convention He admits "it didnt' originate with us, it's an ancient symbol used to ward off evil spirits. And long may it wave over AA." Frankly, if he'd still been alive the miracles of mental health who took over WSO would never had gotten away with their hijinks, suing people over stuff etc. 14:28:14 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : 'because 'circle & triangle' is already in the publis domain...from ancient paintings 14:28:21 From Bill W to Everyone : And an article about the (circle and) Triangle in the AA Grapevine https://silkworth.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Why-Is-The-Triangle-The-Symbol-of-AA-Sep-1959.pdf 14:29:12 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : I will be saving the chat and putting it up on the https://primetimeisnow.com website 14:29:26 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : error "public domain" corr 14:30:21 From Jack A to Everyone : JANUARY 1989 The Likeness of Angry Apes BY: ALDOUS HUXLEY 14:30:40 From Jack A to Everyone : Grapevine Article 14:31:11 From Nancy C-S to Everyone : thank you to those who offer links/info to the 🔺️ circle 🔵 question. 💛 14:31:19 From Kathy H - Prime Time to Everyone : Thank you Area 44 for your invaluable knowledge, and Craig and Howard for bringing this to us and preserving it for all to see. 14:31:40 From Lynn Nor Cal to Everyone : Canadian doctors Dr. Abram Hoffer google Dr. Abram Hoffer & Bill W 14:32:16 From Tim K - 239 Days to Everyone : Thank you for putting on this presentation! God bless you!! 14:32:17 From Lynn Nor Cal to Everyone : https://www.psychotherapy.net/blog/title/alcoholics-anonymous-founder-bill-wilson-s-long-lost-treatment-paradigm 14:32:20 From Jack A to Everyone : JUNE 1960 Man and Reality BY: ALDOUS HUXLEY 14:33:08 From Lynn Nor Cal to Everyone : Bill W. was a seeker 14:33:41 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : Ketamine>> FUTURE PROBLEM 14:33:54 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : This is NOT AA. 14:33:57 From Ross's iPad to Everyone : I've heard bill explored niacin therapy for his smoking 14:34:07 From Lynn Nor Cal to Everyone : PTSD book: The Body keeps the Score 14:34:11 From Mark R to Everyone : NYU Medical School is planning a major study with psychotropic medicines and addiction. 14:34:16 From David E to Everyone : I believe LSD was marketed by Sandbox, Basel, Switzerland 14:34:54 From David E to Everyone : Sandoz , that is 14:34:56 From Bill W to Everyone : There's an AA Grapevine article written by Aldous Huxley in January 1960 edition. 14:35:31 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : Albert Hofmann got some on his tongue by accident 14:35:31 From Dano Alkie to Everyone : john b..thx. always loved your insight and love for history since 2010..AAHL 1,2&3....Dano b 14:35:38 From Jack A to Everyone : The 1957 GV Article above is the one that discusses chemicals. 14:35:52 From Peter C. - rhode island to Everyone : Psychedelics 14:35:58 From Marsha P to Everyone : When I came in AA 33 years ago, the old timers at a meeting next to a clinic recommended Vitamin B-3 shots before the weekly meeting, from the clinic. It was part of the meeting’s routine. 14:36:01 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : Ignatius of Loyola spiriutla exercises 14:36:22 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : Bill Wilson studied accounting finance and law. He was a business man who knew how to analyze companies. I think it was a natural format for him. Just my speculation. 14:36:50 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : He Sold Himself Short 14:37:16 From Lynn Nor Cal to Everyone : https://www.zenacupuncture.ca/2016/06/28/episode-35-niacin-bill-wilson-and-abram-hoffer/ 14:37:48 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : Bill did a couple things that had no precedent. "contempt prior to investigation" was not Spencer 14:38:22 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : Our version of St Francis's prayer exists nowehere else. 14:39:44 From Dave NYC, USA -- (917) 202-7507 to Everyone : Richmond Walker, not Richard 14:40:46 From Joel M. Miami, FL to Everyone : Contempt prior to investigation came from William Paley (1794) 14:44:20 From Ed F-NJ to Everyone : Dark chocolate works 4 me 🌈 14:44:37 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : Bill's GSC talks in "Our Great Responsibility" AAWS 2019 14:44:41 From Lynn Nor Cal to Everyone : Book: Trauma and the Twelve Steps bt Jamie Marich 14:44:52 From Dave NYC, USA -- (917) 202-7507 to Everyone : Rule #62 refers to the group, not the individual, according to the tradition in the 12&12 14:45:37 From Liz A. (Ann Arbor, MI) to Everyone : They go into detail about rule #62 in the book NOT GOD. 14:45:48 From Jack A to Everyone : https://www.experiencerecovery.com/blog/who-created-rule-62/#:~:text=Rule%2062%20comes%20from%20the,t%20take%20life%20too%20seriously.%E2%80%9D 14:46:51 From Atlanta S to Everyone : ny or nj on the email? 14:46:55 From Maia S to Everyone : BBSGSONJ@aol.com 14:46:56 From John B to Everyone : bbsgsonj@aol.com 14:46:58 From Kathy H - Prime Time to Everyone : BBSGSONJ@aol.com 14:47:18 From Jack A to Everyone : YouTube of Bill W. discussing Rule #62 14:47:18 From Dano Alkie to Everyone : bbsgsonj@aol.com 14:47:22 From Jack A to Everyone : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOghsZoklVQ 14:47:57 From Lynn Nor Cal to Everyone : thank you Howard. appreciate your service & this presentation. fantastic 14:48:21 From Liz A. (Ann Arbor, MI) to Everyone : Apparently they have never had a bad trip. 14:48:50 From NIL UNTIL to Everyone : Hi Liz! 14:49:12 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : I think they are talking about very small doses for medical purposes. (Speaking as someone who HAS had a bad trip.) 14:52:22 From Bill H to Everyone : Catholics rev 14:52:43 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : once again, "Re-Ligion" is highly misunderstood. 14:52:46 From Katherine C to Everyone : wow awsome such knowledge thanku for all your hard work 14:53:05 From Bill H to Everyone : Catholics recovering in AA can thank my great grandsponsor, Clarence Snyder! 14:53:29 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : Clarence Snyder has some great talks about this and how he broke Cleveland out of the Akron O.G. meetings and gave his sponsor Dr Bob conniptions over it. Great AA history source Clarence S. has many talks on the net for fun and for free 14:54:03 From Ross's iPad to Everyone : Clarence Snyder, and The Clevelanders were working. class Irish and German Catholics the were threatened with excommunication if they went to Oxford group meetings, because they engaged in public confession 14:54:08 From Bill H to Everyone : Book: How It Worked, by Mitchell K 14:54:11 From Debbie L. Y.@.H Group to Everyone : thanks Roy...I'll check it out 14:54:59 From Lorraine C to Everyone : Yes Thank you for this workshop 14:55:51 From Ross's iPad to Everyone : Clarence was my great, great grand sponsor 14:55:55 From Rosann, Ballina Group, Mayo, Ireland to Everyone : Thank you all for the great History. I have to leave 14:57:35 From John M to Everyone : Roy L! Thanks for all you contribute. And thanks to all of you. This has been the bomb! 14:57:54 From Karen NJ to Everyone : Thank you to all who made this presentation possible. I appreciate your time and effort, fabulous! 14:58:40 From Dano Alkie to Everyone : ed webster 14:58:46 From Jack A to Everyone : Ed Webster, was published in 1946 by Webster and his very close friend, Barry Collins 14:59:06 From Craig 818 618-9843 to Everyone : Primetimeisnow.com 14:59:11 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : I apologize for my messy alter ego, she hasn't read R #62 yet, 14:59:40 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : 7th Tradition Venmo: @craig-mirijanian Paypal astridhowe@gmail.com Primetime Library https://primetimeisnow.com/library Primetime Meetings https://primetimeisnow.com/meetings Facebook Group, "Primetime is Now" https://www.facebook.com/groups/150420738368480/ 14:59:51 From Craig 818 618-9843 to Everyone : all meetings are listed on website under Meeting link at top 15:00:03 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : I DID READ that Dr Bob wrote 'red book' with Hazelton publishing 15:00:09 From Jack A to Everyone : http://www.aatheoriginalway.com/the-little-red-book 15:01:24 From Linda Lou B to Everyone : I remember a "Stools and Bottles" little book also 15:01:54 From Jack A to Everyone : Stools and Bottles was also written by Ed Webster. 15:02:21 From Susan K. - Townsend, WI to Everyone : I want to thank everyone for organizing this presentation, presenting and sharing. I've learned a lot. Grateful for each and everyone one of you. 15:03:04 From J.P. G to Everyone : Thank you so much for this amazing meeting. 15:03:20 From Vesta E 2/26/1992 to Everyone : Thank all of you for doing this would 15:04:42 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : SERMON ON THE MOUNT is derived from Frances Scovil SHinn's GAME OF LIFE and HOW TO PLAY IT 15:04:53 From Debbie L. Y.@.H Group to Everyone : GTG. Thank you all for your service. This was wonderful!! 15:05:09 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : Matt 5-7 15:06:28 From Carol P. (MA) to Everyone : Pfau 15:06:44 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : Father Pfau mentioned by Clarence also 15:07:00 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Emmet Fox had a reinterpretation of the Gospels based on the idea that thought was creative; that prayer determined outer reality. “As within, so without.” 15:07:02 From Jack A to Everyone : Father John Doe originally. 15:07:13 From Paula G. 302-765-7963 to Everyone : I have all of them. He signed them Father John Doe. 15:07:18 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : I have a copy of collection reprinted 15:07:20 From Jack A to Everyone : Also wrote "Beyond Sobriety" 15:07:33 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : Collins and Ed Webster I think 15:07:37 From Angela E to Everyone : so sad to have logged in late! when will this recording be available to watch in entirety online? 15:08:07 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Angela, it will be up by tomorrow AM 15:08:24 From Angela E to Everyone : thank you so much ❤️ 15:08:29 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Audio, slides and chat only 15:08:33 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : Somebody posted a great link already on the little Red Book Barry Collins and Ed Webster 15:08:42 From Dano Alkie to Everyone : and sobriety without end. father John doe.. 15:09:07 From Jack A to Everyone : Dr Bob did review it prior to publication according to a quote by Collins 15:09:45 From Dano Alkie to Everyone : especially the summary for st 6,7 in little red book...dr. Bob language for sure 15:09:53 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : It's ALL Metaphor 15:11:01 From NIL UNTIL to Everyone : it is WONDERFUL! I have a card signed by Wally p ! 15:11:15 From Jack A to Everyone : Back to Basics was developed from some "beginner's meeting" formats primarily in the Midwest. 15:12:01 From NIL UNTIL to Everyone : you had to surrender and have a membership card in the early days 15:12:03 From Mark L. ROSELAND to Everyone : BY US they are called AWOL A way of life 15:12:11 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : In some of his talks Clarence S. said these "quickly through the steps" workshops where newcomers were taken through in days or weeks max. Clarence said it was simply a matter of necessity because after his early Plain Dealer articles the membership went from about a dozen to two hundred overnight and there weren't enough sponsors to go around one on one. 15:12:31 From Jack A to Everyone : AWOL is a totally different format. Have done both. 15:12:35 From BRANDON R “NEVER BETTER “!on to Everyone : MAY I ASK WHAT KIND OF MEETING IS THIS? 15:12:53 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : AA Big Book history, Brandon 15:13:19 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : one region made people show their 'alkie approved' card at the front door 15:13:24 From Craig M to Everyone : big book history workshop 15:13:26 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : I've been through Wally's workshop in L.A. twenty years ago. He's got a good spirit. I like him personally. I don't think it hurt me, I'm still sober 15:14:25 From Lynn Nor Cal to Everyone : Big Book Awakening www.bbaworks.com 15:14:26 From BRANDON R “NEVER BETTER “!on to Everyone : OKAY,, WOOW,, HOW ABOUT THAT,, MY GRANDFATHER IN THIS PICTURE WITH BILL WILSON ,, WAS THE FIRST BLACK DELEGATE IN AA,, AND HE IS IN THE ARCHIVES IN NEW YORK & PHILADELPHIA.. 15:15:11 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Cool pic, Brandon. :) 15:15:42 From BRANDON R “NEVER BETTER “!on to Everyone : ARE THEY CONFERENCE APPROVED LITT?? 15:16:02 From Dano Alkie to Everyone : is father John doe 4th most published aa Author???? 15:17:01 From Henry-NYC to Everyone : The BACK2BASICS Program is a Triage way of going through the Steps for the Newcomer or anyone else who may be struggling to get into the Work. You can then turn the Checklist over & on the back draw out the Columns. I have hosted BACK2BASICS also. That was my 1st introduction 12 years ago, I have 30 years now. 15:17:55 From Felix E. to Everyone : This is a list of all the books at the Bill Wilson house in East Dorset, VT: https://www.wilsonhouse.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Griffith-Library-Shelf-Catalogue.pdf 15:18:44 From Bill H to Everyone : 1 word is different in the 3rd Step Prayer in "As Bill Sees It". "Victory" was changed to "Transcendence" 15:19:23 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : AN important edit, it would seem. 15:19:38 From Bill W to Everyone : Here's one interview with a guy who knew Bill Wilson and says he was with Bill Wilson and the TM. https://www.kolmac.com/bill-wilson-tm-and-the-11th-step/ 15:20:12 From Bernard E to Everyone : Can you comment on the book, "Variety of Religious Experience" and the impact it had on Bill W. 15:20:43 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Bernard, that was covered in detail toward the beginning of this meeting. 15:21:06 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : The audio will be posted on https://primetimeisnow.com by tomorrow AM 15:21:06 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : the 1936 dictionary says--contemplation 15:21:10 From Frank F. H&A NJ to Everyone : Quiet Time 15:21:36 From Bernard E to Everyone : Oops... Thanks... 15:21:51 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : to consider a project or event 15:22:05 From Bill W to Everyone : If it matters, the guy said he personally was at the meeting with Bill and others where TM was discussed. It is worth looking at before judging. 15:22:36 From Bill H to Everyone : 12 & 12 also mentions placing yourself on a beach or mountains. 15:22:53 From Dan T. New Farm to Everyone : Thank you one & all. This has been a great presentation / discussion!.... "The popular adage that “repetition strengthens and confirms” certainly applies to practicing AA principles. Unfortunately, it also applies to making myths and errors appear to be facts." --Arthur S. 15:23:17 From Jaime M - NY to Everyone : thank you all 15:24:04 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : DAN--google the 'Texas AA Preamble' for full story 15:24:25 From John M to Everyone : Bill W’s experience late in life with TM - https://www.kolmac.com/2015/03/bill-wilson-tm-and-the-11th-step/ 15:24:52 From Paula G. 302-765-7963 to Everyone : great job John B. A lot of interesting history. Does anyone know his home group - zoom information, if any? 15:25:10 From Dano Alkie to Everyone : a phone call that listens both ways 15:25:24 From Craig M to Everyone : he put his email on chat 15:25:31 From Jean H&A NJ to Everyone : His home group is posted above in the chat 15:25:41 From Paula G. 302-765-7963 to Everyone : okay thanks Craig and Jean. 15:25:49 From Jill S, New Jersey to Everyone : great to hear you John, thank you I have to log off now thank you everyone! 15:25:50 From Christine - Tenerife to Everyone : Conversations with God. Neale Donald Walsch 15:26:25 From Henry-NYC to Everyone : two way prayer.org 15:26:27 From Jill S, New Jersey to Everyone : and thanks Frank! and rest of our H/A committee 15:26:32 From Vicky B. Cornwall UK to Everyone : Rev. Bill w 2 way prayer 15:26:43 From Jack A to Everyone : Wally P Pamphlet - How to Listen to God. 15:28:02 From Jack A to Everyone : LOL That's the one Greg! 15:29:34 From Greg M to Everyone : The How to Listen to G-D phablet is B2B 1 & 2 15:31:45 From Christine - Tenerife to Everyone : Thank you Greg 15:32:10 From Steve R GV Ariz to Everyone : Thanks Greg 15:33:10 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Tiebout uses “Ego” in a non-freudian sense. He talks about the “infantile ego,” 15:33:32 From John M to Everyone : Article about Bill W’s experience with TM late in life is written by George Kolodner , 3/6/15 15:34:11 From Roy L. Santa Monica CA to Everyone : Best metaphor for physical allergy plus mental obsession: "Drinking makes me thirsty, and not drinking will not keep me not drinking" 15:34:16 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Ego as the component of the psyche that balances between the id and the superego is entirely different. 15:35:27 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Tiebout is at pains to make the distinction in his paper on “The Ego Factors n Surrender in Alcoholism" 15:35:28 From Ross's iPad to Everyone : blythwood sanitarium 15:38:35 From Jack A to Everyone : And we really don't care. I've got it, and I've found a way to treat it that works for me :) 15:39:44 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4056340/ 15:40:21 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : sick,,,,not immoral reprobates 15:40:35 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : There are genetic markers for alcoholism risk. 15:40:58 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : But no genetic test for alcoholism as such. 15:41:24 From Mark E. Tacoma, WA 12-24-96 to Everyone : ISM Internal Spiritual Maladjustment 15:41:29 From John M to Everyone : According to the man I stated name of above, he said Bill said, “I didn’t fully understand the 11th step until I started TM” 15:41:46 From Ross's iPad to Everyone : bill says of Bob after there first meeting, he did not know what it meant to be an alcoholic 15:41:54 From John M to Everyone : And I understand it’s a “he said, he said” 15:42:18 From Paula G. 302-765-7963 to Everyone : I love the language allergy - with a spiritual solution. Science has changed our fellowship to more people dependency/science dependency, rather than God dependency - that's what I have seen. I have an allergy to alcohol and a self talking illness that requires God. 15:42:20 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : my brother denies his diabities with the same fervor as alkies deny addiction 15:42:29 From Christine - Tenerife to Everyone : In case you missed it John B's email is bbsgsonj@aol.com 15:43:19 From Atlanta S to Everyone : what’s the code for sermon on the mountain? 15:43:41 From Andrew S. - Maryland to Everyone : Singleness of purpose 15:43:44 From Al B-Vegas to Everyone : code is in primetimeisnow.com 15:44:23 From Atlanta S to Everyone : ty 15:44:24 From Vicky B. Cornwall UK to Everyone : Anyone have the link for the sermon on the mount meeting starting soon? 15:44:28 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : thank you ever so much, you got to show me my learning of history is on a good path 15:44:51 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : https://primetimeisnow.zoom.us/j/908928650?pwd=VTJSdXN4N2ZYNnBiY0htZmNZYWdoQT09 15:44:57 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Sermon on the Mount meeting 15:45:05 From Vicky B. Cornwall UK to Everyone : Thankyou x 15:45:38 From Ross's iPad to Everyone : no Hank, no book 15:46:13 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : that's why AA can never be a cult 15:46:27 From Christine - Tenerife to Everyone : https://primetimeisnow.com/wordpress/index.php/meetings/ 15:48:18 From Jane Canada Ontario to Everyone : Truly the best Sunday afternoon in a long time. Thank you from Canada! 15:50:01 From Paula G. 302-765-7963 to Everyone : agree - definitely will never be a cult! lol 15:50:10 From Paula G. 302-765-7963 to Everyone : Too many diverse ideas and opinions 15:50:30 From Mark E. Tacoma, WA 12-24-96 to Everyone : best cult that works for me! 15:50:44 From Brian G. H&A NJ to Everyone : Thank you everyone, was an honor to be a part of this! 15:51:34 From Peter C to Everyone : they say we’re brainwashed, but my brain needed a good rinse. 15:51:51 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Synchronicity: the simultaneous occurrence of events which appear significantly related but have no discernible causal connection. 15:52:05 From John M to Everyone : Does any “cult” require a living leader??… Bill and Bob are long gone…. 15:52:30 From Paula G. 302-765-7963 to Everyone : cults take all your money too! 15:52:30 From Mark E. Tacoma, WA 12-24-96 to Everyone : me too Peter 15:52:50 From Steve R GV Ariz to Everyone : Cults don't exist to help the membbers. just the leaders 15:52:52 From Paula G. 302-765-7963 to Everyone : me too Peter - a good washing is what I needed. 15:53:03 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : yes or no, John, CULTS have ONE and only ONE WAY 15:53:17 From John M to Everyone : What Steve R said! 15:53:23 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : AA has 2,000,000 etc ways 15:56:45 From Mark E. Tacoma, WA 12-24-96 to Everyone : 2.1 million recoveries and 40 million books 15:57:56 From Al K H&A NJ to Everyone : Thank you everyone. It was an honor to be part of this! 15:58:53 From Christine - Tenerife to Everyone : So sorry I have to leave, but Craig's Sermon on the Mount meeting is starting in 5 minutes. This is a first for me,, that my complete attention and interest have been held happily captive by a book discussion. John B, you are such a wonderful AA messenger. Thank you . Thank you everyone 15:59:56 From Ross's iPad to Everyone : AA can't be a cult, because nobody will do what you tell them 16:00:04 From Paula G. 302-765-7963 to Everyone : i have to go too but i will be listening to this on primetime later. thank you to everyone - great job and fascinating. 16:00:40 From Christine - Tenerife to Everyone : ID 908 928 650 Password primetime 16:01:57 From Peter C to Everyone : excellent! thank you, John!! 16:02:31 From Howard O - NC to Everyone : Primetime Library https://primetimeisnow.com/library Primetime Meetings https://primetimeisnow.com/meetings Facebook Group, "Primetime is Now" https://www.facebook.com/groups/150420738368480/ 16:02:56 From Esther B/ C Group Greer SC to Everyone : thank for your service👍🏼 16:03:05 From Ross's iPad to Everyone : Buckman believed in promotion not attraction. who sought out the rich and powerful for endorsements, including a certain German chancellor 16:03:08 From Al B-Vegas to Everyone : new world’s record! 16:03:12 From Karen NJ to Everyone : Thank you so very much!! 16:03:37 From Louie San Diego to Everyone : how offen do you host these conferences? 16:03:48 From Alicia H.- Branson, Mo to Everyone : Thank you for your time! 16:03:49 From Felix E. to Everyone : This was truly great, thank you!!! 16:03:56 From Deb NWTA-66 PI/CPC to Everyone : AWESOME !!!! better than a one hour meeting